【言谈录】看的时候不要有观察者

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When you observe a tree, between you and the tree there is time and space, isn"t there? And there is also the botanical knowledge about it, the distance between you and the tree - which is time - and the separation which comes through knowledge of the tree. To look at that tree without knowledge, without the time-quality, does not mean identifying yourself with the tree, but to observe the tree so attentively, that the boundaries of time don"t come into it at all; the boundaries of time come in only when you have knowledge about the tree.

如果你观察一棵树,你和树之间存在着时间和空间,不是吗?还有植物学的知识,你和树之间的距离,即时间,以及关于树的知识所引起的分离感。抛开知识,抛开时间特质,这不是说把自己同化为那棵树,而是非常用心地观察树,以至时间根本没有介入。只有你抱有关于树的知识时,时间才会介入。


Can you look at your wife,or your friend, or whatever it is without the image? The image is the past, which has been put together by thought, as nagging, bullying, dominating, as pleasure, companionship and all that. It is the image that separates; it is the image that creates distance and time. Look at that tree, or the flower, the cloud, or the wife or the husband, without the image!

你能看你的妻子、你的朋友或其他任何东西而没有任何意象吗?意象就是过去,它是由思想拼凑而成的,比如唠叨的、咄咄逼人的、专横的,比如快乐、陪伴等等。正是意象引起了分化,正是意象制造了时间和距离。看那棵树,看花朵、云彩或者你的妻子或丈夫,不要透过任何意象!


If you can do that, then you can observe your conditioning totally; then you can look at it with a mind that is not spotted by the past, and therefore the mind itself is free of conditioning.

如果能做到那样,你就能全面观察自己的制约了。然后,你就能用未被过去染指的心看,因此心本身就从制约中解脱了。


To look at myself - as we generally do - I look as an observer looking at the observed: myself as the observed and the observer looking at it. The observer is the knowledge, is the past, is time, the accumulated experiences - he separates himself from the thing observed.

看自己,像平常那样看,观察者看被观察的对象:我自己就是被观察的对象,我自己也是进行观察的观察者。那个观察者就是知识,就是过去,就是时间,就是累积的经验,他把自己和被观察的东西一分为二。


Now, to look without the observer! You do this when you are completely attentive. Do you know what it means to be attentive? Don"t go to school to learn to be attentive! To be attentive means to listen without any interpretation, without any judgement - just to listen. When you are so listening there is no boundary, there is no "you" listening. There is only a state of listening.?

看的时候不要有观察者!你全身心关注的时候就是那样看的。你知道关注是什么意思吗?不要跑到学校里学习关注!关注是指不作任何解释、不作任何判断地倾听——只是听就好。如果你这样听,就没有界限,就没有一个“你”在听,只有一个听的状态。


So when you observe your conditioning, the conditioning exists only in the observer, not in the observed. When you look without the observer, without the "me" - his fears, his anxieties and all the rest of it - then you will see, you enter into a totally different dimension.

所以观察制约的时候,制约只在观察者身上,而不在被观察之物上。如果能观察而没有那个观察者,没有那个“我”——没有他的恐惧、他的焦虑等等,你就会看到,你进入了一个截然不同的维度。


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